CH
What's that daft winking eye on an old fashioned telly at 00:22 all about?
"On The Record" titles were good, I agree. Much better than any of the 'machinery' titles that the Daily and Sunday Politics uses. That said the roaring Big Ben croc combined with John Humphreys hosting and questioning did frighten me a bit (as a child).
The eye thing was bizarre! I don't think the titles are that bad - pompous yes but that was the BBC in the 90s. Just look at the news! It just took political programming a bit longer to catch up with the new millennium.
What's that daft winking eye on an old fashioned telly at 00:22 all about?
"On The Record" titles were good, I agree. Much better than any of the 'machinery' titles that the Daily and Sunday Politics uses. That said the roaring Big Ben croc combined with John Humphreys hosting and questioning did frighten me a bit (as a child).
The eye thing was bizarre! I don't think the titles are that bad - pompous yes but that was the BBC in the 90s. Just look at the news! It just took political programming a bit longer to catch up with the new millennium.
NG
Really not a fan of that logotype. It looks like a vertically stretched Impact, which is an ugly typeface to begin with.
The previous beige zebra-print upholstery chairs did the rounds a fair bit: they'd go on the road with the programme. Maybe they ran out of the fabric to re-cover them?
Also, good to see Ken Clarke's got his favourite tie on.
The zebra print was retired, briefly, when the show relaunched from the Barco wall set in TC7. It returned after a short period, possibly when "Sunday AM" became "The Andrew Marr Show"...
noggin
Founding member
Really not a fan of that logotype. It looks like a vertically stretched Impact, which is an ugly typeface to begin with.
The previous beige zebra-print upholstery chairs did the rounds a fair bit: they'd go on the road with the programme. Maybe they ran out of the fabric to re-cover them?
Also, good to see Ken Clarke's got his favourite tie on.
The zebra print was retired, briefly, when the show relaunched from the Barco wall set in TC7. It returned after a short period, possibly when "Sunday AM" became "The Andrew Marr Show"...
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MO
Funny, I just watched that and thought the opposite! Great music, showed authority, not pomposity.
Hate this idea that news & current affairs should be friendly and approachable. It should be "this is important, we are the best, listen to us".
Echoes of these Breakfast News titles which were, in my opinion, the best news titles ever created...
What terrible music that Breakfast with Frost era ha.
I don't think the titles are that bad - pompous yes but that was the BBC in the 90s. Just look at the news!
Funny, I just watched that and thought the opposite! Great music, showed authority, not pomposity.
Hate this idea that news & current affairs should be friendly and approachable. It should be "this is important, we are the best, listen to us".
Echoes of these Breakfast News titles which were, in my opinion, the best news titles ever created...
MA
Robert Peston and itv must be laughing.
I doubt it. It will be interesting to see what in roads Peston and ITV make. The previous ITV incarnations of their Sunday political shows faired poorly against Breakfast with Frost and Andrew Marr's replacement shows.
Of course the irony is the present Marr programme is just an evolution of what was originally an 'ITV' programme anyway, Frost's TV-am Sunday show, transferred to BBC 1 in 1993, and replaced by Marr's show, with more or less the same format and remit
Robert Peston and itv must be laughing.
I doubt it. It will be interesting to see what in roads Peston and ITV make. The previous ITV incarnations of their Sunday political shows faired poorly against Breakfast with Frost and Andrew Marr's replacement shows.
Of course the irony is the present Marr programme is just an evolution of what was originally an 'ITV' programme anyway, Frost's TV-am Sunday show, transferred to BBC 1 in 1993, and replaced by Marr's show, with more or less the same format and remit
:-(
A former member
Robert Peston and itv must be laughing.
I doubt it. It will be interesting to see what in roads Peston and ITV make. The previous ITV incarnations of their Sunday political shows faired poorly against Breakfast with Frost and Andrew Marr's replacement shows.
Of course the irony is the present Marr programme is just an evolution of what was originally an 'ITV' programme anyway, Frost's TV-am Sunday show, transferred to BBC 1 in 1993, and replaced by Marr's show, with more or less the same format and remit
Back then, Frost only ever turned up for 6 months of the year, ie Jan - June. with the lots going to Diamond and Dimberby.
IT
Breakfast with Frost only ever had one theme tune during its entire run and it was never re-recorded. As Moz says, it was loosely based upon the then Breakfast News theme. I have to say I'm a great fan of it - but then again I like all of the 1990s news themes.
itsrobert
Founding member
It wasn't the theme which was bad, rather that version which I assume had been redone umpteen times by then, and just ended up as noise.
Breakfast with Frost only ever had one theme tune during its entire run and it was never re-recorded. As Moz says, it was loosely based upon the then Breakfast News theme. I have to say I'm a great fan of it - but then again I like all of the 1990s news themes.
NE
It's great to hear that the breakfast signature fanfare remains to this day, albeit not on Marr
MS
I think about 10 years ago Sky News rebranded, viewers dropped, they changed the design, viewers came back up, its important.
It wasn't the set design that caused Sky News to tank in 2005. It was the fact they completely changed the format of the channel. Out went the emphasis on rolling news and in came appointment to view programmes. They also messed around with the presenting team, shoe-horning three presenters into Sky News Today and having the dreadful James Rubin on World News Tonight at 8pm.
I think about 10 years ago Sky News rebranded, viewers dropped, they changed the design, viewers came back up, its important.
It wasn't the set design that caused Sky News to tank in 2005. It was the fact they completely changed the format of the channel. Out went the emphasis on rolling news and in came appointment to view programmes. They also messed around with the presenting team, shoe-horning three presenters into Sky News Today and having the dreadful James Rubin on World News Tonight at 8pm.
SC
Robert Peston and itv must be laughing.
I doubt it. It will be interesting to see what in roads Peston and ITV make. The previous ITV incarnations of their Sunday political shows faired poorly against Breakfast with Frost and Andrew Marr's replacement shows.
The theme music, furniture and set are not what an audience watch a show for (other than some people around these parts).
The reason they watch Marr is that he's a good interviewer and the show gets very good guests.
How well does it rate though and is it doing any better than the 9am hour of Breakfast on the Saturday. For me Marr is one of those shows loved more by politicians than the viewers.
This Saturday's edition of Breakfast attracted 1.30m viewers (32.3% share) between 6am and 10am.
Yesterday's edition of Breakfast drew 0.93m viewers (32.8% share) between 6am and 9am.
The Marr show attracted 1.62m viewers (23.6% share)
Robert Peston and itv must be laughing.
I doubt it. It will be interesting to see what in roads Peston and ITV make. The previous ITV incarnations of their Sunday political shows faired poorly against Breakfast with Frost and Andrew Marr's replacement shows.
The theme music, furniture and set are not what an audience watch a show for (other than some people around these parts).
The reason they watch Marr is that he's a good interviewer and the show gets very good guests.
How well does it rate though and is it doing any better than the 9am hour of Breakfast on the Saturday. For me Marr is one of those shows loved more by politicians than the viewers.
This Saturday's edition of Breakfast attracted 1.30m viewers (32.3% share) between 6am and 10am.
Yesterday's edition of Breakfast drew 0.93m viewers (32.8% share) between 6am and 9am.
The Marr show attracted 1.62m viewers (23.6% share)
NG
noggin
Founding member
Yep - ratings for this weekend :
BBC One Marr 1.6m 26.3%
ITV Horrible Science 0.1m 2.3% / Murder She Wrote 0.2m 2.9%
(BBC Two, C4 and Five are all around 0.3-0.5m with various shows)
Sunday Politics got 0.6m / 7% but was in a later than usual slot (because of Russian GP) and against World Cup Rugby on ITV (1.4m 14.2%)
1.6m at 0900 on Sunday morning for a political show is not bad.
BBC One Marr 1.6m 26.3%
ITV Horrible Science 0.1m 2.3% / Murder She Wrote 0.2m 2.9%
(BBC Two, C4 and Five are all around 0.3-0.5m with various shows)
Sunday Politics got 0.6m / 7% but was in a later than usual slot (because of Russian GP) and against World Cup Rugby on ITV (1.4m 14.2%)
1.6m at 0900 on Sunday morning for a political show is not bad.