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Election 2005 -Pre-Election discussion here

Line-ups, studio's, presentation etc.... (February 2005)

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cat
It might look like it's based there, but it's not.

You'll see guests doing the circuit of all the channels during the evening. All the broadcasters arrange transport for their guests to shuttle them around London.

Last time, for instance, Shirely Williams went from Sky to the BBC, back to an interview on Sky, then to ITV, then back to the BBC again.
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cat
Sput posted:
cat posted:
I'm really quite baffled by your argument, actually.


Could it *just* be that the two different styles address your differing tastes? There doesn't have to be a logical reason every time!


No, absolutely, and I've no problem with him having a difference of opinion with me, but I'm just perplexed by the argument he put forward.

I can't see how Sky's graphics have been, as he's called them, flat out crap and garish. They are mostly grey/white and have the three party colours on them... what does he want, black and white?
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I T V 1
I love the way the background moves with the image on ITV's studio. Wonder how they done that!
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Sput
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I love the way the background moves with the image on ITV's studio. Wonder how they done that!


That's how old CSO works (I've not seen it mind) but by not setting the image to move around with the set, the set effectively masks the picture. So when the camera moves, the "opening" moves around the picture effectively.

EDIT: That makes no sense does it. Someone else try Smile
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cat
Sky in the election studio now... Boulton has a big screen facing him, and there are other areas around the side. Looks a bit more interesting than we we've seen so far.

They've also got their River Thames thing up again, graphically projecting results and logos etc on to the River.
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Sput posted:
I T V 1 posted:
I love the way the background moves with the image on ITV's studio. Wonder how they done that!


That's how old CSO works (I've not seen it mind) but by not setting the image to move around with the set, the set effectively masks the picture. So when the camera moves, the "opening" moves around the picture effectively.


Oh right thanks. Are they still able to put an hold on things, for example if they put a story up in a seperate video screen?
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Adam
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I love the way the background moves with the image on ITV's studio. Wonder how they done that!


Well they've spent quite a long time developing that background. They'll have taken many (possibly hundereds) pictures of the atrium from different angles, and let the computer work out which image to use depending on the camera angle/position. They'll also have done something clever with the computer to let it move when the camera is moving. I could be talking rubbish though.
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Adam posted:
I T V 1 posted:
I love the way the background moves with the image on ITV's studio. Wonder how they done that!


Well they've spent quite a long time developing that background. They'll have taken many (possibly hundereds) pictures of the atrium from different angles, and let the computer work out which image to use depending on the camera angle/position. They'll also have done something clever with the computer to let it move when the camera is moving. I could be talking rubbish though.


Maybe if they went through that so much trouble just for a few hours, hopefully they will introduce it to the proper ITV News! Its like they have used the moving VR and mixed it with the still VR!
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Dunedin
I've said it before, but why not again.

I think this interactive multiscreen news thing is all a bit of a fad, especially on a night like this.

If you're genuinely interested in seeing the results as they come in, the best feed surely is the channel feed (whether that be on Sky News or News 24)- the extra screens comprise of either pre-recorded material (i.e. you miss out on the live movements on the channel screen) or a single live OB (ditto- you miss out other lives).

It makes no sense for any of the superfluous screens to be providing "better" coverage than the channel screen- otherwise the programme editor would go live to that screen for everybody.

All this "be your own director stuff" is a load of crap- interactive content should put in-vision 'tools' in the hands of the viewer- no extra screens, but (as examples) a way of flicking through the latest projections, to see the nationwide map as it gets filled by declarations, a constituency result finder and to see the latest swingometer....all the time keeping the main channel's programme in vision and in sound.

I'm pretty sure uptake of these extra screens on both Sky and the BBC will be disappointing at best.
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Dunedin
On the point of the ITV News backdrop- haven't seen on screen personally (only seen the caps), but surely adopting it for the ITV NC would kind of defeat the purpose of the "Theatre of News"....it would simply become a backdrop like the BBC News background.

If they want viewers to genuinely believe that they're sitting in front of this backdrop, replacing it with OB link-ups or using it a newswall for graphics etc, would (apart from being technically difficult to maintain the CSO's integrity) be somewhat confusing.

As far as I see it- the backdrop's either a backdrop (like the BBC and like tonight on ITV) or it's a newswall (like the "theatre of news" on ITV usually). It surely can't be both or a mixture of the two.
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Dunedin posted:
On the point of the ITV News backdrop- haven't seen on screen personally (only seen the caps), but surely adopting it for the ITV NC would kind of defeat the purpose of the "Theatre of News"....it would simply become a backdrop like the BBC News background.

If they want viewers to genuinely believe that they're sitting in front of this backdrop, replacing it with OB link-ups or using it a newswall for graphics etc, would (apart from being technically difficult to maintain the CSO's integrity) be somewhat confusing.

As far as I see it- the backdrop's either a backdrop (like the BBC and like tonight on ITV) or it's a newswall (like the "theatre of news" on ITV usually). It surely can't be both or a mixture of the two.


It can though, because they will be able to pull up video screens, so i will work better, and the view is real pictures. A video screen pulling up from no where is far more impressive than on what appears to be a video of squares.
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Greg
The Sky News Election site looks to be good.
http://news.sky.com/election/

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