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Breakfast Set

Is it too old already? (January 2005)

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FA
fanoftv
It's strange how these things work out. I had to be up for the first time in ages, and so I sat and watched a bit.

I was never a fan of this set when it was introduced, and I'm not a fan of Natasha either. Dermot's ok, but I'm not a huge Natasha fan.

To me it felt like with the view that they were using they were trying to make a big impact, to make the show feel big.
I'm not sure that it does this myself. It looks very cheap.

GMTV get away with the screen print as they have the window hatching infront and lighting, plus a lower ceiling.

This is one thing I would introduce if I were them would be a lower ceiling level, add a high boarder of some sorts to cut it off, lower the lighting.

I wouldn't mind seeing a set similar to News 24's with red and white perspex, and if it would be possible adding a projection of London behind the perspex, thus giving it a real feel and something people could at least relate to rather than the BA headquarters or where ever it is.

They should try and create a homely feel, whether it be to create an apartment style studio or to just do the This Morning approach and fill the studio with many areas and a bit of tat on shelves.

What I don't understand about the 2000 look of the Breakfast set is how big it was, or at least appeared, especially seems as though they have a quick turnover for Working Lunch (followed by Newsround and Newsnight).

Of course the other option would be to broadcast from the News 24 set and maybe add a sofa area into the new set somewhere.
DA
Davidjb Founding member
The original breakfast set which launched in september 2000 was definatly the best. The glass blocks with blue background was always really refreshing first thing in the morning. I think breakfast needs to re-establish itself again. It was really good when Sophie and Jeremy (who i did not like to start with) were there. They just worked so well together. Dermot is ok these days but i just dont connect with Natasha if that makes any sense. To me, she is not really a morning person. It would be really cool if Natasha and Jane Hill could swap places. I think Jane and Dermot would be a great team.
NG
noggin Founding member
James Hall posted:
Remember the Natasha-era set? (Introduced about mid-2002, withdrawn June 2003). That was quite warm, and I liked it a lot. If only they had done something else with the flowers and not had a gap in the back of the sofa. It would have worked extremely well. IMO, it did - surprising there isn't much material from that era though. Was that when Moira was in the CSO in N6?

Edit: No, I wanted this thread to be seperate, as people seem to be having an argument over the lovely Sian Williams in there. I'll leave the handbags alone and stick to an independant thread.


Moira was CSOed with a backdrop of the News 24 studio (though artworked rather than a real shot) - but she was still in a corner of the Breakfast studio - there was often an over-the-shoulder handover shot.
MA
Matrix
As I understand it Breakfast should be moving to N24 very soon. I hope this proves to be a positive move for the programme. It was announced that it would return to a move "Newsy" approach, YIPPEE Laughing . Breakfast in my opinion has been on the slope since stricly can't read turned up on the seen, although why on earth see was "headhunted" amazes me as she was just as annoying on Sky. (STOP RANTING JOEL, back on topic!)
anyway the move to n24 and a more news based programme seems a step in the right direction. I hope they use the set a lot more, as oppesed to sitting behind the desk, why not go into the newsroom, maybe present buisness and "issue" storys from there. News 24 hinted at more day long storys, such as healthy eating which was run recently. I can see no viable excuse why this sort of thing could'nt be started in Breakfast.
Presentation wise, I hope there's some sort of change to the titles, the part-update was very promising and hopefully breakie could produce new titles without the "blow up universe effect" something completly different, maybe like The World.
Presenter wise, personally I hate waking up to twinke toes and this quite unbeleivable freindship between Dermot and Natasha. Maybe move Dermot off to the six, and Natasha a mid-afternoon slot on News 24. Sian Williams totally changed my perseption off her with the LIVE Breakfast from Galle, recently. Maybe have Sian and Bill ( A long and distant dream I know, but I'm allowed to dream! Rolling Eyes ) Mon-Thurs and Fab Moira and Simon McCoy from there on. Anyway just an idea....
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JA
jamesmd
Matrix posted:
As I understand it Breakfast should be moving to N24 very soon. I hope this proves to be a positive move for the programme. It was announced that it would return to a move "Newsy" approach, YIPPEE Laughing . Breakfast in my opinion has been on the slope since stricly can't read turned up on the seen, although why on earth see was "headhunted" amazes me as she was just as annoying on Sky. (STOP RANTING JOEL, back on topic!)
anyway the move to n24 and a more news based programme seems a step in the right direction. I hope they use the set a lot more, as oppesed to sitting behind the desk, why not go into the newsroom, maybe present buisness and "issue" storys from there. News 24 hinted at more day long storys, such as healthy eating which was run recently. I can see no viable excuse why this sort of thing could'nt be started in Breakfast.
Presentation wise, I hope there's some sort of change to the titles, the part-update was very promising and hopefully breakie could produce new titles without the "blow up universe effect" something completly different, maybe like The World.
Presenter wise, personally I hate waking up to twinke toes and this quite unbeleivable freindship between Dermot and Natasha. Maybe move Dermot off to the six, and Natasha a mid-afternoon slot on News 24. Sian Williams totally changed my perseption off her with the LIVE Breakfast from Galle, recently. Maybe have Sian and Bill ( A long and distant dream I know, but I'm allowed to dream! Rolling Eyes ) Mon-Thurs and Fab Moira and Simon McCoy from there on. Anyway just an idea....
____________
OSWESTRY AND BORDER COUNTIES ADVERTIZER POLITICAL EDITOR
Backing the BBC's discision for the broadcast of Jerry Springer 100%. Freedom of speech the word of the hour.


Nope, Natasha and Simon have great Chemistry, Dermot gets on my nerves.... move him to a bulletin.
TV
tvguy
I think a breakfast set is something that you eat breakfast on!
EO
eoin
Matrix posted:
As I understand it Breakfast should be moving to N24 very soon....


Have I missed something?
BN
Breakfast News
pickle104 posted:
Matrix posted:
As I understand it Breakfast should be moving to N24 very soon....


Have I missed something?


I don't know have you? Do you know something we don't.
EQ
Equidem
Bring back the old style Breakfast Time style titles, along with a modernised version of that brilliant theme! Smile

http://thetvroom.com/images-bbc-one-news/breakfast/images-1983/titles-2a.jpg

Also a look at the late 1980s / early 1990s:


http://thetvroom.com/images-bbc-one-news/breakfast/breakfast-1989/titles-d.jpghttp://thetvroom.com/images-bbc-one-news/breakfast/breakfast-1989/titles-f.jpg

1993 - 1997:

http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/bbcnews/news/bbcbusinessbreakfast130493.jpg http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/bbcnews/news/bbcbusinessbreakfast130493b.jpg
http://www.tv-ark.org.uk/bbcnews/news/bbcbusinessbreakfast130493a.jpg


Sorry David Lowe, but your pips and beats music is sh*t now and has dated disasterously quickly.
BB
BBC LDN
Equidem posted:
Sorry David Lowe, but your pips and beats music is sh*t now and has dated disasterously quickly.


Personally I wouldn't agree with that. I think that David Lowe's compositions still sound pretty good; what's really crippled the "sound" has been the sequence of audio disasters that the BBC have created in-house as supposed developments of that theme. The theme haphazardly thrown together for coverage of the French elections stands out as a particularly regrettable catastrophe, for example.

I've heard many audio mocks on the Forum - from Jamez/P7OUT1E and many others - building on the basic themes established by David Lowe, and which sound incredibly fresh and vibrant. It's just some of the recent execution of the themes that have been exceptionally poor, but I don't think that's necessarily an indication that the whole thing has dated quickly.
GR
gregmc
BBC LDN posted:
Equidem posted:
Sorry David Lowe, but your pips and beats music is sh*t now and has dated disasterously quickly.


Personally I wouldn't agree with that. I think that David Lowe's compositions still sound pretty good; what's really crippled the "sound" has been the sequence of audio disasters that the BBC have created in-house as supposed developments of that theme. The theme haphazardly thrown together for coverage of the French elections stands out as a particularly regrettable catastrophe, for example.

I've heard many audio mocks on the Forum - from Jamez/P7OUT1E and many others - building on the basic themes established by David Lowe, and which sound incredibly fresh and vibrant. It's just some of the recent execution of the themes that have been exceptionally poor, but I don't think that's necessarily an indication that the whole thing has dated quickly.




Get the titles out. We have had them since the launch, with a few remixes, new look, refresh the music, new studio. What ever you do Breakfast , DONT GO BBC NEWS BRAND STYLE. With the booms etc
TV
tvguy
I've got an idea.Mix all the titles since breakfast time together with the same tune,but drums to begin with,then guitars,then remixed and repeated!
The titles could start with the beginning of breakfast time 1983 speeded up,then the middle of 1986 titles,then 2 seconds of breakfast news and a new ending!

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