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Joe6,063 posts since 9 Oct 2005
Meridian (South) South Today
Nice site, good content considering it's early days, and a great look.

I think the page structure could be a little better - on the BBC page, you could have image links to the sub-pages, and the video and image content for (for example) BBC News 24 could be directly on the News 24 page, rather than on another sub-page.

However, this is quite minor, and I hope it continues.
bilky asko4,492 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Three things I want to point out:

1) Don't save your TV Live logo as a JPEG! It ruins an otherwise good logo

2) When you right click on the page, this comes up:
&copy TV Live 2007 - thanks for visiting.
instead of ©.

3) Some of your screenshots are in sqaushyvision rather than widescreen, and some are OK.

It looks good otherwise
Joe6,063 posts since 9 Oct 2005
Meridian (South) South Today
bilky asko posted:
1) Don't save your TV Live logo as a JPEG! It ruins an otherwise good logo


What's wrong with JPEG? Suppose you want it as a Windows Bitmap? Laughing

bilky asko posted:
2) When you right click on the page, this comes up:
&copy TV Live 2007 - thanks for visiting.
instead of �.


I assume that's to stop people saving target as.
bilky asko4,492 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Jugalug posted:
bilky asko posted:
1) Don't save your TV Live logo as a JPEG! It ruins an otherwise good logo


What's wrong with JPEG? Suppose you want it as a Windows Bitmap? Laughing


No, PNG is best for logos.
Jugalug posted:

bilky asko posted:
2) When you right click on the page, this comes up:
&copy TV Live 2007 - thanks for visiting.
instead of �.


I assume that's to stop people saving target as.


The &copy should be a copyright symbol, is what I meant
bilky asko4,492 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Here's a comparison (fortunately this is a very "faithful" recreation)

*
That's a PNG. It comes out exactly as you see it on the screen.
*
That's a JPEG.
Notice the slight halo effect and the compression artifacts - making what would be smooth colour "spotted". It's also a nightmare to edit. And, the colour is slightly different to the PNG. PNG supports alpha transparency at multiple levels too.

That's why I use PNG for everything but photos.
tesandco758 posts since 28 Sep 2001
Granada North West Today
As it is a simple logo, it would indeed be possible to get away with a PNG, however for anything which gets even remotely complex they're still massive images, hence not widely recommended over a lightly compressed JPEG. There are also still problems with the colour representation in IE of PNG images, which means in a lot of cases you're still stuck right back with GIFs. As for using Alpha Transparency, it's still pretty limited what you can do with that (without resorting to dirty hacks), due to the good guys at Microsoft not coming onboard until last year.

PNG. Great from a marketing and theoretical perspective, but flawed from an implementation one courtesy of Microsoft.

As for &copy, its just missing the semi-colon off the end. Amount of times I've done that with entity characters (particularly &pound) in webdev work is amazing! Embarassed
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bilky asko4,492 posts since 9 Sep 2006
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
tesandco posted:
As it is a simple logo, it would indeed be possible to get away with a PNG, however for anything which gets even remotely complex they're still massive images, hence not widely recommended over a lightly compressed JPEG. There are also still problems with the colour representation in IE of PNG images, which means in a lot of cases you're still stuck right back with GIFs. As for using Alpha Transparency, it's still pretty limited what you can do with that (without resorting to dirty hacks), due to the good guys at Microsoft not coming onboard until last year.

PNG. Great from a marketing and theoretical perspective, but flawed from an implementation one courtesy of Microsoft.

As for &copy, its just missing the semi-colon off the end. Amount of times I've done that with entity characters (particularly &pound) in webdev work is amazing! Embarassed


I forgot about GIFs, although it might not work with this logo, it could work if the logo were simplified.

There is a simple solution to the Interent Explorer PNG problem; don't use Internet Explorer, use Firefox 2 (or Firefox 3 if you want Smile )
rob6,748 posts since 7 Apr 2001
Meridian (South) South Today
bilky asko posted:
Three things I want to point out:

1) Don't save your TV Live logo as a JPEG! It ruins an otherwise good logo

2) When you right click on the page, this comes up:
&copy TV Live 2007 - thanks for visiting.
instead of ©.

3) Some of your screenshots are in sqaushyvision rather than widescreen, and some are OK.

It looks good otherwise


1. The logo is fine, and it will be staying a JPG format. If I change the logo (which might be happening), I'll consider other formats.

2. Noticed, and being corrected.

3. This was due to a problem at my end. Hopefully all screenshots will now be in the right ratio.

As for the way the links work, I think that work does need to be done on image links from the main page. I'll work on that when I have more time.

UPDATES - The Hits and TMF Pages are now available through the Other Channels Link. Videos for Channel 4 are being uploaded right now.
tvlive.org.uk
the eye3,496 posts since 19 Jan 2005
bilky asko posted:
Here's a comparison (fortunately this is a very "faithful" recreation)

*
That's a PNG. It comes out exactly as you see it on the screen.
*
That's a JPEG.
Notice the slight halo effect and the compression artifacts - making what would be smooth colour "spotted". It's also a nightmare to edit. And, the colour is slightly different to the PNG. PNG supports alpha transparency at multiple levels too.

That's why I use PNG for everything but photos.


His TV Live logo is 100% quality, looks exactly the same as it does in PNG.

Your JPEG logo there is only 66% quality, so whatever program you use, is ****.
rob6,748 posts since 7 Apr 2001
Meridian (South) South Today
tesandco posted:
As for &copy, its just missing the semi-colon off the end. Amount of times I've done that with entity characters (particularly &pound) in webdev work is amazing! Embarassed


I'm used to typing in just &copy into a website, I just edited it using alt+0169.

I have no issues with the logo. It doesn't matter how good the quality is, it's just a damn logo. I'm not bothered with how a logo affects the entire website. So let's just talk about the site now and forget about a logo (thanks once again to Damian who designed it)...
tvlive.org.uk