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Neil Jones3,324 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
The problem with Sky boxes is, as as nice as they are, they're designed in such a way that unless you have an active subscription they become near enough useless for anything other than watching TV - even the Sky+ functionality goes out the window.

You getting another Sky box probably won't change the availability of the service you get now as everything on the Sky boxes is dependent on the viewing card being active. Your viewing card should, in theory, let you get the FTA channels so there should be nothing to tune in. However this is UK experience so how it works with an ROI address I can't say.
noggin11,955 posts since 26 Jun 2001

(Apart from Pick TV - are there any other FTV channels these days - even in the UK?)


I think London Live is, (and only viewable on London registered post code cards?)
Similar for some of the other locals ?


Think it's FTV across the UK - but only EPG mapped to cards in the London postcode. Think you can probably add it to view via other channels if you have a FTV (or active Sky) card but are in another region. I was able to add the STV Local services that way to have a look ISTR.
noggin11,955 posts since 26 Jun 2001

Finally #chinamug thanks for your pointers : I can't access Other Channels now that my sub has lapsed. I've scoured the Sky menu but the only remaining active interface is Services - and it doesn't seem to be an option there. I'll investigate the option of getting an old Sky box further but yes the Holy Grail remains how to manually tune in... Cool


Depends on your Sky box model - but the Add Channels option is in Services. On a Sky HD PVR it is in Services->Options. You add them in 'Add Channels' and watch them in 'Other Channels' ISTR. You may not get an 'Other Channels' option until you've added some.

This might be helpful : https://elfknowsit.com/sky-channel-codes-all-you-need/

You won't be able to get the Irish PSB channels that way though - as they are pay-TV only on Sky I believe. (I don't think there is a FTV option for them in the Republic).

If you want RTÉ - then presumably you can watch via their web-based RTÉ Player, which has a watch live option I think? It will be on DTT FTA in Ireland (aka Saorview), and so any cheap DVB set top box you can get in a supermarket for a tenner or two should receive it I think via a reasonable aerial feed.

In the Republic Saorview is DVB-T (though it uses MPEG4 not MPEG2 so don't expect a basic UK Freeview SD box to work), in the North the RTÉ channels are on a DVB-T2 Freeview HD mux (though in SD)

As for Sky - what you wanted from them was a 'Freesat from Sky' card (it used to be called a 'Solus') - though that may be UK only and not available in the Republic (for the same reason the Irish PSBs aren't FTA or FTV)
Last edited by noggin on 5 January 2017 12:35pm
Neil Jones3,324 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
It's understandable they don't stand on the rooftops and shout about Freesat from Sky, as it probably generates them bugger all in comparison to Sky+HD/SkyQ, but that price £254 is expensive compared to options on the Freesat site but I understand you get more channels through it than Freesat.
Markymark4,197 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
It's understandable they don't stand on the rooftops and shout about Freesat from Sky, as it probably generates them bugger all in comparison to Sky+HD/SkyQ, but that price £254 is expensive compared to options on the Freesat site but I understand you get more channels through it than Freesat.


The extra channels aren't worth the considerable extra cost in my opinion. Also because the Freesat EPG mapping uses your (or whatever Wink ) postcode, you can choose (and change as often as you wish) whatever region for BBC and ITV,
Freesat from Sky will be tied to whatever address you used to register with, and the FTV card is tied to that.
Without any card in a Sky box, Ch 101 will default to BBC 1 London and 103 to ITV Central West
Stuart6,455 posts since 13 Oct 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
It's understandable they don't stand on the rooftops and shout about Freesat from Sky, as it probably generates them bugger all in comparison to Sky+HD/SkyQ, but that price £254 is expensive compared to options on the Freesat site but I understand you get more channels through it than Freesat.

I think many FSfS customers are ex-Sky subscribers, so their existing equipment will provide the service without the £254 outlay.


Furthermore, Sky+HD boxes are available on t'interweb for far less than £254 (usually less than £40), so they just need to pay out the £25 for the FSfS card, although not required if you have an ex-subs card.
noggin11,955 posts since 26 Jun 2001
There are not many channels left on the sky card for Freesat customers, I think the Sony movie channel was one of them but that's now on Freeview.

It only cost £95 with Freesat.


Freesat is definitely a better bet for DSat these days. You can buy a subscription-free Freesat PVR.

A Sky+ without a subscription will NOT record, even if it has a Freesat-from-Sky card.