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tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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ITV Launch New Promo Styles

The problem with the old cloaking is that it meant every trail had hundreds of versions in case it was cross promoted. The flow idea didn't work half the time anyway with sponsorship etc

I also prefer the time etc bigger. They were far too small before
I would've assumed such a system would've been designed to do those transitions on the fly using a computer in playout? Doing it manually for each ident sounds impractical to me.
tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

Remind me again what the script of the promo actually says...


Remind me again what appears in the studio behind Anna Botting...?

That is my point. If the product is superior to the rival's, then why nick their branding? It's laughable. I'd be just as aghast if the BBC were moving from ten o'clock and Sky suddenly went all beepy with globes everywhere.

I know Sky News branding has been heading in something of questionable direction lately, but this... Shocked

I think that - anywhere else but here - any sense of righteous indignation would be confined to those who wouldn't choose to watch the programme anyway, so it MUST stand on its own two feet editorially, and if I have anything to do with it - and I do - it will.

This is a presentation forum, so - shock horror - prepare to have your product judged on presentation...

Sky News at Ten looks like ITV. No two ways about it.
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tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

Just because it isn't 'European', doesn't mean it's American.

The voice of God has been a thing in Australia going back decades. Hardly an Americanism. In fact lots of your observations are historically quite 'normal' for Australian TV; perhaps their origins are from American TV, but to me American TV takes these things to an extreme whilst Australian bulletins tend to remain dialled back a bit.

The only thing I can agree is the transition swooshes are quite American, although Sky News UK have also used them.
tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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New look BBC One - Jan 2017

I was quite happy to leave BBC One HD on at 6:30 if it was on in the background as the ambient noises were quite relaxing. What you have now is a period of silence interspersed with a period of bland music with people shouting over it. It's beyond annoying and makes me more likely to switch over to find something else and not return to BBC One at 7pm like they'd want me to.


Yea but, isn't the red caption of death only there until 18:35, the other 20-25 mins is a barrage of trailers ?

Nope, its 30 minutes of red screen.
tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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Sky / Discovery Dispute

Lots of snobbiness in this thread. "Haw haw TLC who has value for it?"

I don't watch TLC but some people do, so obviously they would value the channel.

I think this is a wake up call to Sky to be honest. They might have the Premier League but not everyone wants Sky Sports; there are plenty out there who subscribe for entertainment and trimming back on content for those viewers whilst also raising prices is bad optics. Discovery may very well have hit a nerve here.
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tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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International News Presentation: Past and Present

When Nine News launches in the Southern Cross markets, will both WIN and Nine -- local competitors -- use the same Cool Hand Luke theme?

Looks likely. WIN hasn't changed a thing about their bulletin since their affiliation change to Network Ten so at this stage it looks likely WIN will be playing a strategy of confusing viewers and hoping a number of viewers looking for the SCA-Nine service will accidentally tune into the WIN service.

For anyone unfamiliar with WIN, they're unbelievably petty. For a decade they inflicted viewers with solid watermarks on sports telecasts to cover up the Nine watermark. In 2007, when Nine and WIN were going through a spat, WIN placed a bar across the L3s of the Today Show to prevent regional viewers from seeing astons.

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tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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CNN International

CNN is to launch a version of CNN Money in Switzerland this year. It will be broadcast in English and come from studios in Zurich. It will be carried on cable, IPTV and "free-to-air operators", according to reports, so I assume it might appear on Zattoo Switzerland, for example.
Details: http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2017/01/22/cnnmoney-switzerland-to-launch-as-countrys-first-national-english-language-business-channel/

A bit random. Why Switzerland? There are lots of bigger markets in Europe such as Germany with a higher number of proficient English speakers.

I do hope eventually they begin an international CNN Money news channel.
tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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New look BBC One - Jan 2017

Reminds me of the promo they ran about a year ago with the tagline "There's more BBC than you think", where the blocks spin around showing different services the BBC provides. This effort is so much better though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF8ymxgx2nAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF8ymxgx2nA

The tagline 'for all of us' sounds like a nod to 'You make what it is' with the BBC's brand refresh in 1997. Curious though.

Yeah I really like the tagline. The "you're going to reap just what you sow" line and the little 'Start or Stop' button from Perfect Day also works in a similar way.
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tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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New look BBC One - Jan 2017

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If Screenwipe was still on, you can bet Charlie Brooker would've done a typically acerbic segment about these "idents".

Knowing him now he might be satirising the TV Forum reaction.
Seriously look out the window Trump, Brexit, Le Pen and here we have 127 pages of utter drivel about **** idents. I know this is a presentation forum but still......

Yes yes we all know politics is bad, thanks for reminding us. Ever had the thought that perhaps people come here to get away from the utter misery of real life?
And come here to the misery of BBC presentation Very Happy
tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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BBC One HD still can't broadcast regional news in England.

I definitely know Fox US fires trigger pings to affiliates for things such as local watermarking.


Yes - Fox is the odd-one-out in the US markets as it provides affiliates with a pre-encoded 'network' feed rather than a high bitrate, high quality mezzanine 'contribution quality' feed. The Fox stations all have 'splicers' installed.

These splicers take the pre-encoded MPEG2 network feed, and do a very clever partial decode to insert a local bug, by decoding just the macroblocks in the stream that need to be decoded and re-encoded to do so. The rest of the picture just passes straight through and is not decoded and recoded (avoiding further compression artefacts) This also allows Fox to tightly handle 5.1 Dolby audio on their network shows I believe - which some other networks historically struggled with (or more accurately their local stations did)

The Fox splicer also has an MPEG2 encoder for local material played out from the station (commercials, local news etc.) which is synchronised to the splicer's incoming network feed, allowing clean junctions to and from network. This gives Fox tighter control, mandates a uniform bug insertion system that can be remotely triggered etc.

This system was introduced when Fox switched from running a 480i 16:9 SD network feed - which was encoded at the local stations in 480p - and introduced 720p HD. (Fox - unlike ABC, NBC and CBS didn't initially run HD on digital OTA. Their 480p was 'good enough' for them)

This was the situation a few years ago - I think Fox may have since upgraded their splicer tech further.

ABC, CBS and NBC work differently and distribute a higher quality network feed BUT this is then permanently decoded to baseband video and then re-encoded after playout master control in each station. This requires more equipement and personnel than Fox stations I believe.

Bingo, I've had it explained to me before and it's gone in one ear and out the other, however your explanation is roughly what I've heard previously. It's seriously impressive tech.


What I always wonder is how local stations seamlessly merge their local news 'previews' into a national network ECP, along the lines of the preview BBC One viewers are treated to at 5:56pm before the Six. I know local NBC affiliates have been doing that since the late 90s, and it always looks so slick.
tmorgan96291 posts since 6 Jan 2012
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BBC One HD still can't broadcast regional news in England.

The problem is, if they broadcast anything at all on the BBC One HD channel, be it BBC London News, the BBC News channel, or a different region every day, many viewers would just stick with that, thus damaging ratings for the regional news programmes. Broadcasting a caption is only way to, in effect, force viewers to switch over.

One problem I encountered whilst in Holland was that my hotel only offered BBC One HD (with no SD option). Bit annoying, because every other channel was in Dutch.