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noggin Founding member
Are patch bays really used any more? When I've seen them in recent installations they never seem to be used. I imagine modern routers have pretty much removed the need for them.


Although it's still good to be able to over patch a dead router to stay on the air with a key camera chain or source, but that's usually done with a secondary device, such as a relay box, or small router. It's very rare these days to totally lose all of a router, they all (should) have back up control boards.

Patch bays can still be useful for 'edge' cases, adding flexibility, and allowing for ad hoc installs that weren't necessarily foreseen. They are far smaller in my experience, than they used to be, but you do still have them, particularly downstream of interface glue, particularly if you are using fibre downstream of your router.

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Sometimes cameras and primary sources are interleaved
across several input cards. US broadcasters like to do that I'm told ?

UK broadcasters do too.

AIUI both Sky and the BBC have used 'salt-and-peppering' extensively in their recent builds. Does make configuration a bit less intuitive - Cam 1 on input 1, Cam 3 on input 2, Cam 2 on Input 21, Cam 4 on input 22 etc. on a VM for example... but lose an input card, you only lose half your cameras...

SImilarly splitting facilities across router crates is also common, with the two crates NOT co-sited.

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Audio departments, particularly in the UK, still like to have acres of patching, despite modern desks having a great deal of routing functionality built in. Folk on the European mainland are a little less conservative, and often raise their eyebrows when they get inside UK sound control rooms.


Ghilmetti has made the patch bays a lot smaller though Smile
BL
bluecortina
We used to connect the kit in the individual bays to different breakers on the electrical distribution board for the same sort of reasons.
MA
Markymark
We used to connect the kit in the individual bays to different breakers on the electrical distribution board for the same sort of reasons.


Yes ! Now of course almost everything has (at least) two separate and redundant PSUs, fed from diverse supplies
WH
Whataday Founding member
Progress on BBC Wales' new HQ (Cardiff Central station to the right of the pic)

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bkman1990 and TROGGLES gave kudos
ST
Steve Founding member
Studio looks like it might be a bit draughty
Inspector Sands and Brekkie gave kudos
JO
Joe
Is that the area where there was previously a Boots and Greggs? Can't quite work it out
WH
Whataday Founding member
The BBC building is where the bus station used to be - the site of the former Greggs/Boots building is behind it in that photo.

Here's the whole development from a better angle (the BBC building in the centre, with the building that is replacing Greggs/Boots on the right)

http://centralsquarecardiff.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/intro2.jpg

This is the view people will see when they walk out of the main entrance of Cardiff Central Station:

http://centralsquarecardiff.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/CentralSquare.jpg

And this, from the other side of the building with Central Station in the background, is what you'd see if you stood outside what used to be Greggs.

http://centralsquarecardiff.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/BBC-HQ.jpg
Last edited by Whataday on 22 December 2016 2:23am - 2 times in total
JO
Joe
Great, thanks for that!

37 days later

TR
TROGGLES
Something is starting to look a bit familiar.

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MA
Markymark
Something is starting to look a bit familiar.

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I've heard one issue with the all new TVC, it'll be classed as a residential area, which will rather put the brakes on any set shifting and striking, and audience movements between 22:00 and 07:00 hrs ?

And.....
https://www.sony.co.uk/pro/press/pr-sony-4k-ip-bbc-studioworks#.WIt3QMsgfC4.twitter
Last edited by Markymark on 27 January 2017 6:16pm
SW
Steve Williams
I've heard one issue with the all new TVC, it'll be classed as a residential area, which will rather put the brakes on any set shifting and striking, and audience movements between 22:00 and 07:00 hrs ?


Although, given it's right next to two tube stations and one of Britain's biggest shopping centres with umpteen bars and restaurants, plus a very busy road, how much more noise can it generate?
IS
Inspector Sands
TV Centre studios to open in September, more details of the technical spec here:
http://www.bbcstudioworks.com/?p=3676


That exterior photo above is interesting as they've clad the front of it in red rather than blue. I've seen the red on drawings of TVC, possibly concept drawings, but never on telly or photos.

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