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p_c_u_k1,713 posts since 27 Mar 2004
You would assume the rebrand would happen in time for the new city TV stations to come on-stream, rather than branding them STV Aberdeen and then changing it within a month.
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John Koenig39 posts since 15 Dec 2016 new member
London London
It's a big moment in history,
It'll be interesting to see how the broadcasters address the general tone, look and feel of the coverage. Obama's inauguration was given the pomp and sense of history it deserved. The NBC open below really captures this. I shudder to think what the open will be like for Trump...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohhUFvpQ25k


Likely similar to this, not much difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oABFAI7bFVg

Both Bush and Obama made mistakes when being made POTUS, wonder if Trump will.
Last edited by John Koenig on 19 January 2017 12:48pm
MY8354 posts since 16 Nov 2016 new member
BBC also must walk a fine line because attendances at some FA Cup matches have been appalling so far this season. If they put a lower league team on the telly, they would be accused of decimating home crowd levels in favour of TV ratings. No danger of doing that at Old Trafford. If anything it'll cause less traffic jams on the M40.
noggin11,954 posts since 26 Jun 2001

Although there has always been a system that can force all the regions to opt back despite opt control being in the regions. It's only ever been intended for big news like a royal obit so afaik has never been used for reigning in a rebellious region


Yes - though I'm not sure it has ever actually been used has it? In the analogue, and locally encoded digital days, when there wasn't a CCM-style operation for BBC One, there was a system called RATS - which was a regional alert system. I believe there were both Radio and TV versions that were designed to flash lights in the newsroom and gallery / radio studio to ensure people listened to network talkback (or the equivalent thing - GNS? - for radio) to return to network ASAP if they were opted out (or in the case of radio join up the stations for a common announcement)
noggin11,954 posts since 26 Jun 2001

If our American members are in here, how do the local affiliates handle this sort of thing, I think there's a fair amount of similar centralisation over there there too ?


AIUI most local affiliates run their own presentation playout operations for commercials and local/syndicated programming - and also encode locally for their own transmitter. I suspect it is done manually - though I may be wrong.
noggin11,954 posts since 26 Jun 2001

Why only new customers, I am very interested now.


Could be the newer boxes are trickier to get SD composite outputs from. Don't some Sky boxes now come with a non-standard mini-DIN for SD Output rather than a SCART.

What the Sky boxes do is receive the WST teletext data as a separate data stream (just like video, audio and bitmapped graphic subtitles that Freesat and Freeview use) Sky boxes take that data stream and re-insert it into the SD vertical blanking period, in exactly the same position and format as it would have been were it received from an analogue transmitter. This is only possible on the analogue SD output - there isn't a path to embed VBI subtitles in the same way over HDMI.

FTA satellite boxes - sadly not useable for RTE as it is scrambled - often include a teletext decoder within them, so you CAN use an HD HDMI output to access the service, as the teletext is being decoded in the set-top box and the teletext text and graphics are displayed on the HDMI output just as the TV pictures are, effectively burned in.

CEEFAX ran a full service on the BBC's DVB-S transmissions in 1998 when the digital services launched, and continued to run a cut-down service after digital text launched (after a brief withdrawal). The cut-down service was for viewers in Benelux countries who were watching on cable services fed by off-air reception of the BBC's DVB-S broadcasts, and wanted TV listings... and recipes...
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noggin11,954 posts since 26 Jun 2001
It's a Sky Q box that shows it.

When on BBC One the box is blue, and BBC Two its green.

RTÉ One and RTÉ Two sometimes show the 888 box in its place (its top right of the screen) and S4C show the word "SUBTITLES" bottom right.


Yep - those are all WST holding pages. They are effectively what are on p888 when there aren't subtitles. Subtitles mode on teletext always blanked the bulk of the page header, but allowed you to have the page number displayed when there weren't subtitles (I think). S4C are presumably sending a subtitle with the word 'Subtitles' on screen instead.
John Koenig39 posts since 15 Dec 2016 new member
London London
As an aside RTE is still transmitting a full WST teletext service via Sky - but you can only pick it up if you have your Sky box connected via SCART, not HDMI.


How do you pick it up via SCART?

I take it the teletext comes via satellite, do you mean it cannot display through HDMI?

Been so long since I used teletext, can't remember how it worked on Sky.

Edit: I had a look on the text site.

Quote:
Q: How do I launch Aertel on Sky?
A: To launch Aertel from RTÉ One on Sky, press TV button on your sky remote, then press TEXT button on your TV remote.
New Sky customers and Sky HD customers do not have access to Aertel from their Sky set-top boxes.


Quote:
New Sky customers and Sky HD customers do not have access to Aertel from their Sky set-top boxes or over HDMI cables. Try connecting your new Sky set-top box via Scart cable.

Why only new customers, I am very interested now.